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Re: An Apology to FB (Score: 1)
by ArtificialIntel on Wednesday, May 28 @ 18:33:25 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | I'm going to take this opportunity to remind you that OpenSource was government policy not so long ago.
If OpenSource was abolished, 99.99999999999999999% of web sites would immediately have to go. OpenSource includes ALL programming lanugages where source code is distributed. That includes C++, PHP, JSP, Java, C, HTML, JavaScript (being the fundermental 2 online @ the moment) and many others.
Yes, you may argue that C++, C, JSP and Java are all compiled languages and therefore aren't opensource, but you'd be mistaken.
What defines opensource is not what language they're written in, but whether source code is distributed and published or not.
The programming languages themselves aren't affected by any opensource policy from any government, but when a government tries to implement a "No OpenSource" policy, it has to be international or the laws can't be enforced - ever. Web Sites would have to be taken down and written in a compiled scripting language like PHP-Zend or JSP (which is a mission in itself), and there'd be no development of anything outside the main development team because nobody would be able to make things compatible for a long time. This would create a 99% objection in the US and the UK and generally all over the EU because there is a LOT of eCommerce and stuff these days. To ban opensource would cause Governments more problems than leaving it be would.
You don't think there'd be a vote of no confidence? I do. On average, less than 25% of people turn up to vote for elections. what if 60% of people turned up in the first election after they pass a policy as dumbass as that, and the difference of 35% are IT professionals that have been disrupted - majorly - by the policy. The government would be gone quicker than they can say "What are the poll results?"
Now, enough of this because it's way off topic and quite frankly - irrelevant.
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Re: An Apology to FB (Score: 1)
by Atoum on Wednesday, May 28 @ 18:51:39 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | I see the threat on open source as a serious matter we should surely follw a little closer as we all are users of open source programs. Agree on that.
Also the footer copyright notice debate is empty, writing the name of the developper is the least one can do to thank the guy that developped the CMS for us. If one's not happy with this way of thanking, he should consider others, as paying for the licence of another CMS.
But for other CMS, I'll just reply with 2 simple names: PostNuke and Nuked-Klan. Both foarked from PHP-Nuke, bothe are in good state and widely used today...not to mention other CMS that are 100% free and NOT based on PHP-Nuke (SPIP, etc...). All work perfectly.
Let's make one thing clear here: from my understanding, noone WANTS the phpnuke community to clash. On the other hand, noone WANTS to stop using php-nuke cause of money things. 100% free progs can live, what about Linux? What about PHP? Easyphp? phpmyadmin? PHPearl? Didn't the guys that developped them work hundreds of hours on it 2 (much more than FB talking about the PHP developpers)? Still, their programs and support are still 100% free for who wants it to be so, after years of good service.
If you are telling me "admit you have to pay something else you'll see GNU licence die", I'll say "let it die then", since if GNU products are not free, I don't see the use of the GNU licence anyway.
Yes, it all come to money. Cause the reason why we have such a big community is because there's no money involved in it. Money dirties everything, creates extra interests, procedures, rights and obligations, equals more tension...in basic words, money equals business.
You speak about your case, arguing condoms cost you more than you club affiliation. Let me speak about mine. Unemployed since 8 months now, found a job as a humanitarian but starting only in september or october. Since 4 months and untill then, I've been eating spaghettis everyday cause they're the cheapest you get, I live in the cheapest flat I found, I don't buy clothes, and end each last week of each month borrowing up to 60 euros from friends to be able to EAT untill the beginning of next month. Living in Serbia or in Senegal doesn't necessarely put you in a lower social position than someone living in France (me), thanks god things are not that simple.
And what do I do all day long to spend time untill I start my job? I run a community site bringing news, and french support, translating themes and blocks/modules to french all this for the use of the community, and not asking ANYTHING to anyone even though my financial situation ir far, far ,far and far again from comfortable.
Why do I do this? Because I don't believe in nice stories based on money. And I want my story with PHP-Nuke to better than nice, I want it to be lovely. If one day I have to pay for it (I mean more than my hosting), I won't be able to, so I'll have to find another hobby like joggling.
So again, I have nothing against FB, who's a person I respect enourmously, but I have ideals, and also realities I have to stick to.
If PHP-Nuke goes paying, I won't be leaving, it will be leaving me. And trust me, when I'll be alone and see a lovely Freenuke sitting at a bar, as if waiting for me, I'll go and buy it a drink. Without any bad thoughts or intention towards FB or anyone else. Just with good intentions for myself, and all the others in my case (if I exist they exist also). |
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Re: An Apology to FB (Score: 1)
by Dunderklumpen on Wednesday, May 28 @ 20:14:32 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Open Source is NOT a threat to internet security - in fact without it 80-90% of the net would simply be gone.
And any goverment will fail if they ever come up with the stupid ide to try to ban Open Source. In fact several goverments are now testing and evaluating Open Source and there are several projects inside the EU moving in that direction. Open Source is much cheaper and in the end we are talking about taxpayers money.
The Danish goverment estimated that Open Source licenses could save as much as 4 billion Danish Kroner. Estimations done by Swedish authorities point in the same direction. Open Source saves taxmoney wich can be better spent.
In Germany Microsoft just recently lost to Suse Linux when it comes to running the 14 000 computers in the city of Munich.
So no - there will not just be hobbyist complaning if anyone comes up with the idea to try to stop or ban Open Source.
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