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Re: An Apology to FB (Score: 1)
by ArtificialIntel on Wednesday, May 28 @ 17:12:59 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | the "Kiss and made up" bit is a looooong way off yet. I just made the first step.
Secondly. Any Government stupid enough to try to ban OpenSource will be voted out of government in a vote of no confidence in 10 mins flat. This would be for 2 reasons: 1. It promotes computer Crime. 2. It has an undisputable support for the way Microsoft rips people off every single day.
The future isn't set. and you're also wrong about there being no CMS that could ever meet PHP-Nuke's standards. PHP-Nuke has it's flaws which I won't go into right now, and there are alternatives - like e107 and FreeNuke (in planning) that could easily match up to it quite quickly with the right help from people like us.
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Re: An Apology to FB (Score: 1)
by jbsarma on Wednesday, May 28 @ 18:51:29 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.assamchronicle.com | | Very strange. Why EU government would ban OS. If anything they may not promote it but how come they can ban it. This is a free society and banning OS would against the very fundamental rights of citizens that EU boasts of. This is very odd to suggest that OS would be banned - many government in developing countriesn are actively using OS. This is a movement nobody can ban unless ofcourse it dies a natural death due to greeed of people. |
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Re: An Apology to FB (Score: 1)
by Dunderklumpen on Wednesday, May 28 @ 20:04:35 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | 1. There are no actuall suggestions or laws that would ban or make any Open Source software illegal - not in the EU at least. I haven´t even heard this even being discussed. Not seriously anyways. Sure - my guess is that lobbyist from the larger software companies are pushing for such a law but it will never happen since 80-90% av all email (just to take one exampel) is being distributed on open Source. Most homepages are also being hosted on Open Source solutions.
2. If PhpNuke would die or FB taking it in another direction others would develope it further. There are already several distributions out there. |
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Re: An Apology to FB (Score: 1)
by MikeMiles on Thursday, May 29 @ 20:23:35 CEST
(User Info | Send a Message) | Hajduck, your posts are filled with inaccuracies.
There are a ton of other OS CMS' which offer the exact same core features. Some had these well before PhpNuke added it to theirs and some still have neat features not in this project yet. Nuke has a lot of third-party modules and blocks but every one of these can be easily ported to another CMS. If PhpNuke dies, the others will adequately fill the void and live on. The world does not revolve around this project. Some Nuke websites may, but the rest of the world does not. Each of the other CMS' has their own developers and do not rely at all on FB or this project.
The developers are entitled to make money off their efforts, but it is just plain dumb to charge for security and bug fixes. This alone will drive many away from the project. Microsoft doesn't even charge for these. If the programmers want to make money, then offer additional features, customizations, help with installations, tech support, etc but don't do it for fixing something you didn't code/test well in the first place.
It has been shown over and over and over again that security through obscurity does not work. It makes no difference if the code is encrypted. If a program has holes, hackers/crackers will find and exploit them. Open source has its flaws but so does every single piece of proprietary software out there. Microsoft is among the worst. They alone blow up your whole argument that propriety and encrypted software is more secure.
For many, many years, there has been a push to try and kill open source because businesses view it as a threat. Microsoft tried hard to get the US government to only use proprietary software. The US government told them a big NO. They are tired of paying high licensing fees to Microsoft, Oracle, etc for something they can find practically as good for free. Our government is moving more and more of its non-critical systems to open source to help save money. As was already pointed out here, the US and EU don't have the power to kill open source. This would have to be a world-wide initiative to even succeed. Go one step further in the argument, look at the basic premise behind open source. It is the DEVELOPER who decides he wants to give away HIS OWN WORK for others to use, modify, and redistribute. No government in the free world is going to tell one of its citizens he can't create something with his own hands and brain and give it freely away to someone else. This type of dictatorship may be possible in a repressive communist society but not in free democratic countries.
Copyright notice on footers. Read the GPL. It is NOT required period. I don't know why some have such problems understanding this part of the license. It is very clear it is only required in the source code itself. If PhpNuke was an interactive software which btw it is not, then a copyright notice is also required at the start of the program not on every webpage. This may be a request from FB, but the GPL itself does not require this. Please stop adding words to the license.
I've yet to see another open source project which has users brutally beating up other users for removing a notice. The GNU specifically tells the public when you see an infringement report it to the copyright holder as he is the only one who can enforce it. Has FB ever sued anyone over this? NO!! Ask yourselves why not. He could literally be a multi-millionaire if he had a case. He has not done so because he has no legal right to enforce this on someone else.
The only one who is really killing PhpNuke is FB. He was the one who took the code back and wanted to be the sole programmer of the core. He didn't have to do this. Now, he wants people to feel sorry for him? No way. There are many people who have been willing to help out but he keeps them at arms length. He is using the "oh poor me" syndrome which is a wonderful manipulation technique. Many people fall for it over and over again and th
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