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Re: Nuke Cops Seeks Funding (Score: 1)
by ganast on Thursday, May 29 @ 18:56:26 CEST
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Dude, you are so right. You have done just that. you are the security man, and we love it. But you are not putting a price on your services. Do it! I'm not messing with you. Sell us a service! We will buy it...

Open source your stuff for the one man band type of sysadmin, but package it for those of us who have a stack of sites! We want automation!

Oh, and think about moving your major support to xaraya or something... FB is killing us.

--gabe


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Re: Nuke Cops Seeks Funding (Score: 1)
by MikeMiles on Friday, May 30 @ 07:39:28 CEST
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Ganast is absolutely right you need to shift your thinking. Donations are fine for a relatively small site, but as you grow you need to start thinking like a business to help cover your ever growing expenses. There's a right way and a dumb way. Please don't elect the dumb way like FB has done because it just pisses off a lot of people.

I recommend you go over to Invision Board's site and look around at how they are implementing their business plan. Their software is not GPL, but they are a good role model to learn from. What they do is offer their forum's software releases to include bug and security fixes completely free for personal and commercial use. They provide free support via their forums only. Their revenues are generated by extra services one of which includes off-board support. Some of their services are priced and geared towards businesses or those with many/larger sites. Their sole advertising is a required copyright notice on their forum which they actively enforce. They have nutured their community in such a way that there is no internal bickering and backbiting. This aids in spreading their products even more via word of mouth.

You too can develop a niche of products, and you don't have to limit yourself to the PhpNuke community. Security is extremely important. No one likes to see their sites hacked up. Like ganast has pointed out, certain groups of people (not everyone nor even the majority) will pay for extra services. Use the revenue you get from these to cover your expenses and probably even earn a decent salary for your time. Like you said: "if the funding doesn't come then these sites will be taken down" Right, so think ahead but do it smartly and in a way in which you are not alienating a large group of your audience. There is no reason for you to give away everything you do. There are groups of people who will gladly pay on a regular basis if they see they get something real for their money. Don't take the approach FB did because that is the wrong way and will eventually totally fail.


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